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Answer: On the evening of January 22, 2020 at the home of Heidi Leupp in Hillsborough, California. I am including the invitation below.
2. What happened that evening at the home of Ms. Leupp?
Answer: Txx Lxxxx gave a presentation, together with a colleague from the FBI, about U.S. citizens who had allegedly been engaged in espionage activity on behalf of a foreign nation.
3. Which nation, may I ask?
Answer: China.
4. Did you have any knowledge of this subject previously?
Answer: None.
5. Was the presentation convincing?
Answer: Very.
6. To what do you attribute that dynamic?
Answer: First, Mr. Lxxxx stated that neither he nor his colleague would be revealing their names due to the sensitivity of the information. (Despite this, Mr. Lxxxx later provided me with his professional card.) So, there was a sense of confidentiality involved. He referenced Chatham House Rules, with which I was not familiar. And only citizens of the Five Eyes were allowed to attend.
7. What are the Five Eyes, please?
Answer: The U.S., Australia, New Zealand, Canada and the UK.
8. You were a guest of a former friend you now know to be compromised by the far right, is that correct?
Answer: Yes. Rebecca Osgood, whom I now understand to have affiliations with the extreme right.
9. Were you asked to take an oath not to disclose the information presented that night?
Answer: No, I was not.
10. Were you asked to certify your agreement with Chatham House Rules?
Answer: No, I was not.
11. Do you now believe that Mr. Lxxxx and his colleague were presenting known falsehoods to the audience?
Answer: I believe that likelihood to be extremely high.
12. Why is this your opinion?
Answer: Because Mr. Lxxxx appears to be a committed liar who is advancing in his career through a system which is dependent on slandering and defaming law-abiding American citizens as perpetrators of "espionage" and "terrorism" through the FBI's unconstitutional "target of interest" program. And he appears to be doing so for anti-democratic objectives.
13. You believe that Mr. Lxxxx lied about several polite words you exchanged with him, in the company of Rebecca Osgood and others, following his presentation.
Answer: I do.
14. And you believe Mr. Lxxxx utilized those lies to falsely justify a completely unwarranted espionage investigations against your family.
Answer: I do.
15. What was the content of your dialogue with Mr. Lxxxx, in truth?
Answer: I asked for his advice concerning the stalking I was experiencing.
16. The stalking from a member of the far right with whom, unbeknownst to you, Mr. Lxxxx was well-acquainted.
Answer: Yes.
17. And what did Mr. Lxxxx recommend?
Answer: He recommended that I go to the Oakland FBI Office to report my concerns.
18. In retrospect, when you did so, you were inadvertently giving far right FBI personnel further opportunities to prevaricate about you and your husband.
Answer: Unfortunately, this seems to be the case.
19. What was it about the evening at Ms. Leupp's house that violated the Hatch Act?
Answer: After Mr. Lxxxx' presentation, Ms. Leupp explained that we would be hearing a speech from Bridget Mahoney, a candidate for the Republican primary for a seat in the California State Assembly. Following that, Ms. Leupp asked everyone to write checks to Ms. Leupp's campaign.
20. And did many people do so?
Answer: Yes, they did.
21. And that fact -- the presentation by FBI personnel in a professional capacity, combined with the fundraising aspect for a political candidate -- that violates the Hatch Act.
Answer: Yes, it does.
22. Tom Lxxxxwas described in the invitation as a "DoD Special Agent." Does that strike you as odd?
Answer: Both William Evanina and Kash Patel, who used to work within FBI Counterintelligence, are now employed by the DoD. There is likely a career pattern of moving FBI personnel into the DoD when it is determined that they can be useful to the far right within other capacities. But it's necessary for us to recognize that this is the definition of an "insider threat." Corrupt federal law enforcement personnel are funneled into roles as corrupt national security personnel. This represents a serious challenge to the preservation of the civil liberties and human rights of the American electorate.
23. Why?
Answer: Because as of this writing, there has been almost no accountability for personnel in these agencies. If they violate the Constitution they have sworn an oath to uphold, they have not been held to a public accounting.
24. Why is that failing so dangerous?
Answer: What happens when Russian-affiliated organized crime figures are paying off national security personnel in key positions, as I believe is happening? At that point, our national sovereignty is on the line.
25. You are naming Txx Lxxxx in your communications to the OIG Hotline at this time.
Answer: Yes, I am.
26. For what reason, may I ask?
Answer: Mr. Lxxxx is accountable to the American people who have vested in him their trust in his integrity, his honesty, and his loyalty to the United States. If their trust has been misplaced, Mr. Lxxxx needs to explain the reason for his betrayal of his obligations under the law.
27. Your objection to Mr. Lxxxx is that he has lied about you and your family members, and that he has invoked secrecy provisions in order not to get caught.
Answer: I have many objections to the crimes perpetrated by Mr. Lxxxx against my family members and myself. But yes, his lying and his unwarranted invocation of secrecy provisions are among those objections.
28. Would Mr. Lxxxx' alleged compromise by Russian-affiliated organized crime represent another objection?
Answer: No person who loves this county would wish to see this type of corruption within far right segments of the FBI.
29. Yet, you still believe there are many honorable people within the FBI.
Answer: I do. One of the biggest mistakes one can make in facing an insider threat would be to overgeneralize about extent of an agency's compromise. I believe quite a few people within the FBI who know about the corruption of the FBI's "target of interest" program disagree with it. But they are bound to find themselves under threat if they openly object.
30. Some FBI personnel are being held hostage to a totalitarian gambit, in effect.
Answer: Yes.
31. What is the solution?
Answer: Full exposure of the truth represents the only solution at this time. Without it, the democracy cannot be sustained.
32. You are dedicating every resource you have to illuminate the truth of this matter.
Answer: Yes, I am.
33. Why is that the case?
Answer: The American electorate is incapable of defending itself from the FBI's attempted usurpation of the people's sovereignty. The public can't view the stratagems being employed within the FBI's closed system, where secrecy in the agency's predation toward the law-abiding American public is being justified in the name of national security. The public can't evaluate the objectives of the FBI's unconstitutional "target of interest" program. And the the public can't assess the tools being utilized by FBI personnel and affiliates to enforce compliance with those objectives.
34. You believe our elections should still matter.
Answer: The American people elected President Joseph Robinette Biden as President of the United States in 2020, so elections do still matter. He represents democracy's best hope. He is striving for the preservation of the civil liberties and human rights of all Americans, whether they know it or not.
35. You hope that you can articulate the manner in which President Biden is defending the democracy -- and in heroic ways.
Answer: I do.
Lane MacWilliams
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The FBI is a deeply divided agency. There are many FBI employees who view their vows to the Constitution with the utmost seriousness and honor, and who strive to defend the fundamentals of our democracy with courage, fortitude and commitment. The fact that some segments of the FBI appear to have embraced a lawless course is not a justification to assail the FBI in general. As President Joseph R. Biden has so rightly expressed, violence is never justified in any circumstance. The rule of law must always be honored and upheld. It is our shared determination to preserve the civil liberties and human rights of all Americans that renders the United States a democracy. We must never abandon this promise. All of our most cherished freedoms depend upon it.
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