1. You requested that the Southern Poverty Law Center, on the chance they are involved with your case, reach out to you in accordance with the Supreme Court's possible upholding of Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 23. Is that correct?
Answer: It is correct, I do hope that this will happen on an immediate basis.
2. Today, October 28, 2024?
Answer: Today, October 28, 2024.
3. What are the biggest challenges that you face in the interim?
Answer: The biggest challenges result from the fact that falsified law enforcement reporting against myself and my family members is ongoing. It is still being authorized by President Biden and still being facilitated by those within the FBI who have the greatest motivation to conceal their malfeasance against the law-abiding American public.
Beside this, but in no way subordinate to it, is the problem that the DoD is repeatedly visiting my sons, other relatives, friends and colleagues to coerce knowingly false witness statements that place our lives at risk.
4. So President Biden is directing the DoD to demand false witness statements that could result in an unjustified law enforcement raid at your home?
Answer: So the FBI alleges, yes.
5. Why would President Biden be committing this abuse of power as Commander in Chief?
Answer: Could it be because the reports reveal various things that he feels are implicating?
6. Is this the reason that he has blocked outreach to you for all these months and years?
Answer: You know, I think the intention may originally have been to engage in outreach. But that should have happened when the original OIG Hotline investigation was complete, which allegedly occurred in the autumn of 2023.
7. Why didn't that occur?
Answer: There may have been conflicts of interest that started to emerge at that time. And, unfortunately, once that problem developed, the FBI alleges that President Biden made the determination to take our lives due to financial motivations.
8. So the President who ought to have been supporting your efforts in every way possible began to prey upon your family instead?
Answer: This appears to be the FBI's allegation. And it has certainly seemed that way, given the extraordinary harms that have been perpetrated against us.
9. Someone within the intelligence community recently expressed to Congress that your case was not unusual in terms of the extreme travails your family has endured.
Answer: Anytime the government is attempting to take the lives of a law-abiding American family and to do so for the aggregation of profit and power, these events should be seen as unusual. I also believe the level of (redacted content) highly unusual. And I anticipate that some of the actions reflecting conflict of interest pertaining to those (redacted content) were also markedly unusual. So I'm not convinced by the effort to normalize our experience as "average" for those who are wrongfully designated as FBI "targets of interest."
Having said that, it's tragic that predatory acts toward honorable "targets of interest" could ever be discussed as "average." These are honorable Americans -- and others around the world -- who are fighting for their lives. There's nothing "average" about that struggle to survive, I assure you.
10. What is the status of your sons at this point in time? Has their health been restored to them?
Answer: I do not believe so. And the withholding of appropriate medical care is a critical component of the DoD's ability to demand knowingly falsified witness statements from them on an ongoing basis.
11. What are the themes of that false reporting?
Answer: The FBI has alleged human trafficking, drug trafficking, industrial espionage, other kinds of espionage, terroristic activity, serial killing, on and on.
12. And all of these accusations are categorically false?
Answer: That is correct. Knowingly, willfully, and categorically false.
13. You have spoken about the fact that your sons have had their free will co-opted by various means. Isn't that true?
Answer: It is true, even though I have sometimes been limited in addressing the full range of deployments that are intended to co-opt the free will of certain "targets of interest."
14. For what reason, if I may ask?
Answer: For the simple reason that a number of these means are not public information. And while, on the one hand, I do not feel that it is incumbent upon my family to be silent about the specifics of the FBI's predation toward us, on the other hand, some of these technologies are far ahead of public documentation, and for reasons that are understandable. So I am asking the President to withdraw those harms while I am at the same time withholding information about their particulars.
For the time being, the important point is that my sons do not currently possess unobstructed free will. Their human rights have been violated in this regard. I believe it is up to us to now restore their sovereignty, and if that requires deprogramming regarding the torture they have experienced at the hands of the FBI as well as their experiences connected to the unconstitutional Pxxxxxx Program, then they should be provided with deprogramming. This shouldn't seek to obscure their memories of their experiences, but rather to help them contextualize that experience while they recover their sovereign identities.
15. Given that their recruitment should never have happened due to your whistleblower status, are their lives also now at risk?
Answer: All of the lives of my five immediate family members are at risk -- and this is a conservative estimate.
16. Have your sons' (redacted content) directed your sons to harm one another at times or to harm your husband or you yourself?
Answer: According to the FBI's allegations, yes, yes, and yes. All of these wrongful directives have been extended, and by the FBI's own admission regarding these events.
17. So these are human atrocities by virtue of the extreme immorality, lack of any conscience in leadership, and intentional predatory harm toward your loving family.
Answer: Yes, they are. We might imagine hearing about these sorts of acts within totalitarian gulags in various despotic areas of the world. But we don't imagine that they're possible within the United States.
18. Why have we considered ourselves immune?
Answer: How many of us, upon first learning the details of the Holocaust, thought to ourselves, "What is wrong with Germany, that the entire nation could have perpetrated these monstrous acts?" We have a tendency to immediately distance ourselves from human atrocities. They are so abhorrent to civilized people that the first desire is to disavow the proximity of the perpetrators. We want to complete the sentence "It could never happen here, because ...." And we want to be reassured by that disavowal. But the "target of interest" program has demonstrated that (redacted content) can occur anywhere. And particularly when there are concealed (redacted content) which, in violation of the Constitution, do not allow people to know what they're being accused of -- nor to speak in their own defense -- atrocities become infinitely more likely.
19. Rather than face its own wrongdoing in this matter, the FBI is threatening to cause you grievous harm in the near future. May I ask the nature of these threats?
Answer: According to the FBI, they appear to include arson, sniping, fentanyl or other overdose toward my sons, fall from a height, hit-and-run, poisoning, acute illness, heart attack, Dxx assault, conveyance of a deadly illness such as XXS through a non-traditional vector, street crime, shooting during law-enforcement raid, staged car accident involving a collision at a stop light/stop sign or a T-bone collision, staged plane accident, staged "natural disaster" including "landslide," "sinkhole," "earthquake," "lightning strike," kidnapping/murder, kidnapping for ransom, staged street crime, staged suicide, gas explosion, carbon monoxide poisoning, chemical environmental harms, on and on.
20. And President Biden has presumably authorized any of those harms?
Answer: Unfortunately, the FBI appears to allege that these wrongful authorizations are still being provided by him.
21. So, is the President really functioning more like a mob boss than a Commander in Chief?
Answer: The tools being wieldin are totalitarian tools of coercion, certainly.
22. Yet, if the Southern Poverty Law Center engages in immediate outreach to you, it is possible that your family could survive this wrongful targeting, isn't it?
Answer: I believe it is. But their outreach truly is a matter of life and death for us, and I hope the responsibility to contact me is taken just that seriously and urgently.
23. Do you often think about freedom?
Answer: Daily. And I have to believe that it is recoverable. As Nelson Mandela wrote, "to be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others."
We stand at an inflection point involving immense changes worldwide, but even so, I hope that there are contributions to be made toward the longterm freedom of mankind, and I hope that I might make them. We need not only to be focused on short term necessities with regard to the goals of humanity, but also longterm ideals. And in that context, our Constitution is still a living document, still priceless, still transformational, still evolving.
24. You believe that our greatest capacities as human beings are dependent on certain fundamental freedoms. Is that correct?
Answer: I know they are.
25. Perhaps you will articulate those freedoms sometime soon.
Answer: With pleasure.
26. Will you continue to share with us how your family is faring?
Answer: Of course I will.
Lane MacWilliams
*This is to reconfirm that I ascribe to peaceable conduct at all times. Although Nelson Mandela did not always support peaceable protest, I quote him because of his astonishing accomplishment in unifying South Africa at a critical time in its history. Certainly Mandela became a peaceable man and a transformative leader, both, and history remembers him for his greatness in both respects.
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** Please allow me to once again extend the disclaimer that some threats received by me and extended by the FBI are unsubstantiated by me at this time. I regret that I am unable to assess the credibility of every threat extended by this agency or its affiliates, and also that I am not in a position to judge the likelihood of manifestation. Having said that, many of the FBI's threats toward my family in the past have manifested in real-world harms. As a result, I believe that FBI threats extended to me must be viewed as potentially substantive.
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